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  Quote evolone2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: economy is crashing...(items)
    Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 1:35am
this game economy is so going downhill, i believe its because of the items req., seeing all these 10's and 20's running around with High B class items... doesnt make sense. Making this game really bad -.-. If by chance the next major patch comes out with items req. It would so boost this game economy up and would make it more interesting. Examples if it did happens this probably would be the changes:

1. People start to actually buy items from different maps and not just go for highest gear that is out.

2. More people would actually start grinding / leveling up more (having something to look forward to (in wearing the next items).

3. Lowbies have a greater chance of making gold by selling gears at their levels, knowning another lowbies would actually buys it.

4. More Parties-Hunting groups in every map, not just 7 lowbies together in lvl 61map -.-

Thats what i think, if anyone agree please drop a line.

PS- hmmm... Skill Books have lvl Req. Why dont Items? GM please answer this question because I believe that there is a lot of people wondering.

Thanks.
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  Quote Xtacy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 1:38am
Idk when this happened but its crashing badly we need a solution to this problem right away
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  Quote Gammer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 9:40am
 Not only economy but levling also im a levl 47 warrior last 3 days been going down not up,cant play as loner in any map ecept 1f or i die no more exp or monsters hit like mad at same time noobies go in and its a party.WISP
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  Quote alwaho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 3:45pm
Having a lvl on items is a really good idea, I also see noobs running around in rank B armor, its riducalas.
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  Quote Zeik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 3:57pm
level restrictions on higher level maps wouldn't hurt either.
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  Quote Tardfase Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 4:17pm
Although you have a point Kage, I would say no... cuz that's where I'm leveling D:

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  Quote celly9 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 3:25pm
No response from GM about the economy? I see high B stuff as low as 300k. It is getting very hard to play this game because we cant make any money to buy pots.
 
A few people have hundreds of millions of gold that they made before the economy went to crap. The rest of us just struggle to get by.
 
If you train in the 41 map, it costs more in uncursing gems to try to uncurse stuff than what the gear is even worth.
 
 


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  Quote evolone2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by celly9

No response from GM about the economy? I see high B stuff as low as 300k. It is getting very hard to play this game because we cant make any money to buy pots.
 
A few people have hundreds of millions of gold that they made before the economy went to crap. The rest of us just struggle to get by.
 
If you train in the 41 map, it costs more in uncursing gems to try to uncurse stuff than what the gear is even worth.
 
 


i agree, items in this game is crap now. Theres no rare or specials items which make this game interesting? lol

maybe its time to have lvl req on items so we all can make a bit of gold here and there. Basicly this game became a GRINDING game since items doesnt matter. FAILED


Edited by evolone2 - 03 Aug 2009 at 4:39pm
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  Quote heman101 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 5:38pm
Yeah, i think Level caps for maps is good like Kage says. It will Boost Market again. Cause high b stuff sell between 300-700k now from 1m+ and no noob chars are able to make any money now since all the low items has no value, they just save up for low b stuff which is like 100-300k now.  Also i think that Item level restrictions will do good also so no lowbies can have super high items at the start and gotta save low level items for every person joining ingame. So not everyone roaming with best stuff.

Hope Ingame economy raises so everyone makes money and able to level so more players will stay in. If you dont notice as much anymore not as many people in market now population is decreasing Confused



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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 5:47pm
I totally agree with evolone. I am seriously don't know the people going to survive eventually. People are just selling the current best gears like 300k? this is crazy and how people going to cover this potions fee? No one is buying anymore rank c and low b item? I can really see the game is going down.

Admin:

Please consider,

1. Making level restriction in map. If this is a level 61 map, only level 61 is able to enter. If there is a penalty that level 61 can't grind in 41 map why lowbies can hunt in the high level zone. There should also be a penalty if lowbies come into 61 to hunt. -50% exp and drop rate.
2. Level req in items. This is very important. Everyone just come in the game to buy highest level gear. This is like so easy to play and people will get bored over this game.
3. Item has a base value to sell. For rank B items, you can sell to NPC for 800k, this will give the user more choices, if people destroy the market, at least he can turn to NPC. 800k is good enough to cover the potion fees. And if everyone have a choice to sell to NPC at a good price, i am sure noobs and lowbies will not have a chance to take advantage of the market situation now.

Please consider these options. Thanks
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  Quote Jansem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 5:57pm
Admin:

Please consider,

1. Making level restriction in map. If this is a level 61 map, only level 61 is able to enter. If there is a penalty that level 61 can't grind in 41 map why lowbies can hunt in the high level zone. There should also be a penalty if lowbies come into 61 to hunt. -50% exp and drop rate.


No WAY!Where's hunt item or party hunt? Without fun -.-


2. Level req in items. This is very important. Everyone just come in the game to buy highest level gear. This is like so easy to play and people will get bored over this game.


GOOD!


3. Item has a base value to sell. For rank B items, you can sell to NPC for 800k, this will give the user more choices, if people destroy the market, at least he can turn to NPC. 800k is good enough to cover the potion fees. And if everyone have a choice to sell to NPC at a good price, i am sure noobs and lowbies will not have a chance to take advantage of the market situation now.


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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 6:00pm
If my point 1 is not good. Then admin should remove the low level map penalty, if lowbies can party and hunt at map 61. Why can't a high level go into low level zone to earn money and hunt for stone?? This is only benefit the lowbies and the high level inside are like participating in survival series. This is totally unfair?
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  Quote Zeik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 6:03pm
Pretty sure if they made it that you had to be the level it advises you to be it would kill the game. No one's getting to 71 anytime soon, as for 61 I would end up becoming a billionaire if that system was implemented. Although, Maybe adding in a penalty for low lvls going to high lvl zones that might fix that. Some games I've played people cant get exp from a monster if they 14 levels below it and partied. There's a number of different routes you can take. But, level req on gear would probably re-value other items and make people want to level instead of leveling at a snails pace 
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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 6:36pm
Enough of our complains i guess. Everyone here know how bad the ingame economy now. It's now the GM to do something about it, at least propose some changes and ask for our vote?
 
Consolidated suggestion:
 
1. Level requirement on maps. You must be level 51 to be in 51 map regardless of in a party or not.
 
2. Level requirement on gears. You must be of certain level to wear the gear. It is getting no where when everyone can wear the same thing regardless of a level 60 and a level 10 since the gears are selling at 300k per piece now??
 
3. A good NPC value. This is my idea, not yet supported by alot of people here. I think that to give a good NPC value will help to bring back the economy. What i proposed;
 
Rank D ( Low )- NPC Value - 40k
Rank D - NPC value - 75k
Rank C ( Low ) - NPC Value - 200k
Rank C ( High ) - NPC Value - 350k
Rank B ( Low ) - NPC Value - 500k
Rank B ( High ) - NPC Value 800K 
 
We need to bring back the economy. T.T
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  Quote Mundane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:01pm
How would making level 51 map a level 51 requirement or level 61 map a level 61 requirement to get in bring the economy back? Everyone already has high B gears who else are you going to sell to if you keep farming level 61 map? You want everyone to wait for someone to get to level 71 to find low A items? The only reason high B items are so cheap now is because of rumors going around that new items are coming out and everyone wants to get rid of their old high  B items. So calm the f**k down.
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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:15pm
Yea, maybe you are right, but what i am suggesting now is to move on to disaster recovery if you understand this business term or maybe u didn't study that much. Waiting for Rank A items would not help. GM have their own plans. Rank A items might be out in a week, a month or 2 months, we wouldnt know. Now i am asking is to at least stop the market from growing worse each day and if you realised, the game is getting less populated nowaday. We need some solution for the time being till at least make sure that rank A items will not encounter this problem again.
 
In response to your "level 51 can't farm in level 51 map", we already suggested to GM to reduce the level penalty, so that the level 51 can farm and train in 31 map but however i guess the GM will stick with the patch, so in order of fairness, the lowbies should attain the right level to farm on high level gears. They should receive penalty too? They got the levels to farm at those lower level map for more golds and stones, they should use those money to buy items whereas the high level can only grind at 61 map and even with party, you get lousy exp, if you solo you waste money on pots and even though u get good drop and items, it can only be sell at 300k?
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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:51pm
Adding on with more support and reasons:
 
1. Level requirement on maps. You must be level 51 to be in 51 map regardless of in a party or not. So that lowbies will buy gears from another lowbies and this will keep the lowbies in the game. Remove the level penalty on high level to grind in low level maps, a high level to grind on low level, he already sacrifice the exp and gears to hunt for more money and stones, why should he deserve more penalties ( drop rate and the exp reduction ) A level 50+ get like 32 exp from the level 31 map is like you need 1 hour to get 10%, which already pathetic.
 
2. Level requirement on gears. You must be of certain level to wear the gear. It is getting no where when everyone can wear the same thing regardless of a level 60 and a level 10 since the gears are selling at 300k per piece now?? People can only buy items according to their level range. This ensure that all items is able to sell in the market.
 
3. A good NPC value. This is my idea, not yet supported by alot of people here. I think that to give a good NPC value will help to bring back the economy. What i proposed;
 
Rank D ( Low )- NPC Value - 40k
Rank D - NPC value - 75k
Rank C ( Low ) - NPC Value - 200k
Rank C ( High ) - NPC Value - 350k
Rank B ( Low ) - NPC Value - 500k
Rank B ( High ) - NPC Value 800K 
 
Can you imagine now there are noobs in the game selling meteor stones for 150k where u can buy it from the NPC at 99k? this is how screw up it is. An good NPC value of equipments is important so that people dont anyhow screw up the prices. Those values are what i proposed, GM can decide and come out with a resonable amount =)
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  Quote evolone2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by Mundane

How would making level 51 map a level 51 requirement or level 61 map a level 61 requirement to get in bring the economy back? Everyone already has high B gears who else are you going to sell to if you keep farming level 61 map? You want everyone to wait for someone to get to level 71 to find low A items? The only reason high B items are so cheap now is because of rumors going around that new items are coming out and everyone wants to get rid of their old high  B items. So calm the f**k down.


actually it isnt about the rumors about new items coming out. its a FACT that a lot of people are hunting in lvl 61, thats why the price are so cheap now. Almost about everyone can get a hand on high B's item. If you dont know how the marketing system works then please dont speak up. Because before the prices stayed high because only a few can hunt there, thats why it was good pricing, now everyone can get a hand on it. u think people will still sell it the same price? i dont think so.

Level Req on map is OK, but Level Req on items is a must.


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  Quote lonerheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 8:02pm

That is true, everyone hunt there the price will get lesser, that why i suggest that there are some npc value thingy or level requirement on map, at least for this we can work out and make sure that this problem will not happen again for rank a item.

People must have the right level to hunt for the right gears. A level 10 can wear the same gears as level 60, this is ridiculous.

We need a plan to stop gears prices from going lower. Admin please consider my point, raising the NPC value, people can choose to NPC if they want to.
 - help to cover the potion fees
 - less items in market = pricing of the gears will increase
 
No matter they believe if rank a is coming and they are trying to do a "closing down sale", thats toobad, i believe every gears in the game has a value. I re-quote my example; people are selling meteor stones for 150k where you can buy from good merchant for 99k? We need to have a standard price list because people are not getting rank c and low b gear anymore??? This is bad? how are those level 30+ going to get their money from??
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  Quote Tardfase Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 9:33pm
The game should have a set median, maximum, and minimum price for items when placing in shop and/or trading to other players.

Level restrictions aren't needed. That's what makes this MMO unique.

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